Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Hey, everyone. Jim Phoenix here. And today we've got a special what's cracking? A spookily special. What's cracking? We've got none other than Barb from my haunted hometown on the T and E Channel. Friday, September 6, 10:00 p.m. eastern. The Pacific. Doesn't matter which coast you live in, just dial in the ten mountain time. You do the math. I don't know, but here we go. Barbarity. I want to thank you so much for taking this time to talk to us. I've watched the episode, and it is creepy.
It is creepy.
[00:00:37] Speaker B: It's a good one.
[00:00:38] Speaker A: Yeah. We can't do too many spoilers because this will go up before this September 6 drop date. But I have to ask, when you bought the house and this was kind of like a dream house, right?
[00:00:49] Speaker B: It was. It was, um. It was our forever home. Right?
[00:00:54] Speaker A: Right.
[00:00:55] Speaker B: It was our forever home.
[00:00:56] Speaker A: I like that. The thing that makes you go in going, okay, I can come home. This is a great place to do and set up our life together.
What made it change? Was it small things for you? Was it one big thing for you? Was a little bit of like a feeling or what was, like, the first instance of that?
[00:01:16] Speaker B: It's started at night, and it was mostly me that would. That would see it and feel it. It was like somebody watching you. And you know how you look and there's that darkness, and then it disappears when you look. And you're like, well, I know something just moved over there, but. And it would kind of vanish as you, you know, you tried to search, but it got braver over time. And if you got up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night, it would pop out in the hallway at you.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh, that would scare me. That would just scare me to death.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: Terrified. I was like a little kid who was in bed, and I'd have to be like, okay, now how am I going to get to the bathroom here? And it was like, let's try this again. Like, one more time. Let's see. And sometimes he wouldn't bother you, and you could make it to the bathroom, and other times it was, oh, no, he was waiting, and he would just pop out, and it would terrify me. My husband teased me. He thought it was just me. And then one night he got up, and it did it to him. And I heard him yell when I was in bed. I started to laugh, and I thought it finally got him. I thought, good, it's about time he got some of it too. So.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: That's right. It's always funny when it happens to someone else. Yeah, but once it starts happening to you and then becomes like, oh, it's just not my wife making it up. There's something right there.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: Yeah, there's something here. It was an old man. Like, you could clearly see it was an old man.
[00:02:34] Speaker A: That would. That's pretty scary. And there's a couple things we should probably get into, because I. Correct me if I'm wrong, but for this episode, it's called looping.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: Yeah, looping.
[00:02:46] Speaker A: Okay, so the very first episode of my haunted hometown on a TNA channel. September 6, 10:00 p.m. eastern Pacific. It's on looping. And when I first heard it, I'm like, so voiceovers. The ghosts are doing voiceovers now. Like, I'm. I'm losing the ghosts. My career is gone. The dead are doing it. And it turns out, no, looping was, like, the replay of the emotional day or the emotional expunging that things could have. Right. And it's never a good looping. It's not like this is the best day. Looping. No, the darkness.
[00:03:18] Speaker B: It's darkness. It's darkness. I used to call it, like, residual energy, because I didn't know what else to call it. But looping is much. It's more descriptive. It actually nails it, because that's what it is. It's like a period of time that just keeps replaying, like a record skipping over and over and over again. Right.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: Okay.
I think that's a wonderful way of describing. I used to call it, like, the residuals as well. And, like, that was, like, the thing that we try and describe about the word and the record player effect.
So is this around the same times that this would have happened?
[00:03:53] Speaker B: It's always after dinner. It's always after dinner night only.
[00:03:58] Speaker A: Okay. I was wondering, because if it was a daytime or nighttime. So it's nighttime only, and it's not a room specific. It's like you're guessing where it's gonna pop out.
[00:04:06] Speaker B: Oh, the room thing is really funny. I'm glad you brought that up. My house was a bunk house for an original farmhouse, and it was an eight by ten shack, and it was added onto over the years, and we didn't know that. When we bought the house, we thought, oh, what a cute little cottage. And then it turns out that it was a bunk house for a farmhouse. It was just a shed, and it was added onto over time. And I noticed that the ghost never came in my bedroom.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: Really?
[00:04:36] Speaker B: And I noticed he never was in the dining room. It was always the living room, the kitchen, the hallway, and that one bathroom that was in the hallway. It's a very tiny little cottage. It's only 1100 square feet. And there were certain areas that he was in, but he wouldn't go in other areas. And after, when I put an addition on in my bedroom, we found out that they were never here when he was here.
[00:04:59] Speaker A: That's amazing. So the ghost fizzly is like, I'm trapped at the location because the additions weren't there.
[00:05:07] Speaker B: Yeah, this is like. That was what was here when he was here. So he doesn't know about my bedroom. He doesn't know about my dining room. That's just in his reality.
[00:05:17] Speaker A: Goshenhe, that is so very cool. Thanks for saying that. As I'm looking, I was watching this special, and I was seeing some very frightening things. And I won't get into the evidence. Very cool evidence, by the way. Very, very frightening stuff. And I was trying to figure out what rooms had the most activity, but I never thought to say which rooms have no activity.
[00:05:41] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I wouldn't have thought that. I felt like he. One time he chased me down the hallway, and I think I've got the strength to say, hey, get out of my face. You know, get. Get out of my house. But it wasn't working with this guy. Like, he seemed to have as much strength as I did to fight back and say, hey, this is my house, too. So I'm fighting for my house, and he's fighting for his house. It's like a battle between us. So, hey, let's compromise, you know? How about you go outside? You can have all the property outside, but don't come in my house.
[00:06:15] Speaker A: I laugh because we used to do this trick at the bars when I used to be a bouncer. Like, all right, buddy, I had too much to drink. You can still drink at that bar over there. Yeah, I'll walk you towards off of a property. Have fun.
[00:06:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's exactly what I was trying to do. So what was really funny is I had set up all these boundaries that I didn't want him in my house. And I thought, okay, I've got it now. He can't come in my house. He's only here. He has to be here for the goodness of me and my family in order to come in my house. Right. And he was still in my kitchen, and I was like, what is going on? And then when we got another addition on the house, we started to research. The kitchen was outside when he was here, so he still thinks he's outside. He's respecting his boundary. He's agreed to.
[00:07:03] Speaker A: Oh, wow. He's like, I am outside.
[00:07:06] Speaker B: He's like, I'm outside.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: Poor guy.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: Actually in my kitchen. And I was like, okay, now we're having fun with this reality thing. My reality and his reality are two different things. So now do I have to compromise, or does he have to move back further?
[00:07:21] Speaker A: Well, the good news is there was some sort of communication that happened, and at very least, he was trying to meet you in that communication, the way he understood it.
[00:07:32] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:07:33] Speaker A: So it's almost like talking to a little child where you have to be very exact to go, okay, this is the new. New thing.
[00:07:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: And maybe give or take, like, maybe something from inside the house he likes, put it outside, and, well, that's a dog I'm thinking of, but still, it might still work.
[00:07:47] Speaker B: It's.
[00:07:48] Speaker A: It might still work.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: Funny. Like, it's just so funny that it works like that. Like, you really got to think about this stuff, like, right? It's like, well, it's not working. Why is it not working? How come he still hangs here once in a while? So everything was pretty quiet for a while after we did the filming. He was a little bit more active because we kind of fed him a little bit of ego, as I call it. Then it went quiet again, and then now we're putting on another edition. So now guess who's back.
So we've been laughing.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: I wonder, when you're doing this, when you're doing the additions, is there anything on the ground? Because it used to be a farmhouse, it used to be a farm land for the bunk house. But was there anything, you know there before the farm?
[00:08:34] Speaker B: I don't know what was here before. It was farmland, so I'm not really sure. The house has had quite a few people in it over its time period.
[00:08:45] Speaker A: Is there anyone who's you bought the house from? Did they say, like, oh, by the way, you might not want to go to the bathroom?
[00:08:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I had a. My kitchen, um, I can't. I don't want to give the details.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: Right.
[00:08:58] Speaker B: Something's happened in my kitchen. And it also happened when the neighbor who lives next door. This was her house.
When they first got married, they bought this house, and then they had quite a bit of property attached to this house. So they subdivided it and built the house next door. And she come right over one day and said to me, you know, what are you doing? And I said, oh, I'm just, you know, just walking around the property. But I was saging the property, and she's seen me, and she knew what it was. So she come over and she said, what are you doing? And I said, oh, I'm just cleaning, you know, cleansing the air.
[00:09:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: She said, oh, well, I wanted to tell you. And she came right out and told us exactly the same story that I hadn't had experienced yet, but I did five years later.
[00:09:40] Speaker A: Oh, wow. That's. That's proactive of you, trying to sage the house. I think we all know enough to say if it's really bad spirits, hopefully those. This will help out a lot.
[00:09:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:09:53] Speaker A: And if it's some sort of ownership thing, then it gets into the weird, you know, where is he buried at? Is there something he. Did he die in the house? All these little things are coming to your mind, like, why can't I get rid of this one spirit? And then, of course, have you looked up his identity? Have you tried to.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: Yeah, we found him. We know who found him.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: Okay, you found.
Is he one of the 12,000 serial killers that apparently lived in the town?
[00:10:17] Speaker B: No, I don't even know if he was. But it makes you wonder. But, yeah, no, him and his wife passed away, and one was in the hospital, one was in a nursing home. So they went of old age. But they had a hard life here. It had a little bit of acreage to it, and they had a farm, and they had a fruit stand on the highway, and they worked hard on the land to make money. And that's what he's still here doing, I feel.
[00:10:45] Speaker A: Yeah, it's kind of like the pride of work and the worked hard in life and maybe didn't know anything else in depth and always just trying to keep working.
[00:10:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. He's still working. He's still working, and he's trying to figure out who we are in his house.
[00:11:02] Speaker A: So when you first experience it, did you ever think, that's it, we're selling, we're out?
[00:11:11] Speaker B: No, because I thought I could get rid of them. I thought, oh, I can. You know, it's just an energy I can get rid of because I work with, you know, I work with clairvoyance myself, and I'm like, I can handle this. But, no, I couldn't handle it. I've called in a lot of people to help me get rid of this guy, and he ain't going nowhere.
[00:11:29] Speaker A: Okay. Now I'm glad you brought the clairvoyance thing. Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome. Because as I was prepping for this course, if you want to watch an episode of Barb, it's my haunted hometown. September 6, 10:00 p.m. eastern Pacific, only on t and e. And matter of fact, they told me not to steal cable. But if you have cable, you can watch a free, like, month and a half, two months almost, from September 2 to 3 November. The free preview event. Check it out. Every Friday is a new episode for my haunted hometown. And I love this show because I grew up in a small town. Like, I grew up in a small town, and a lot of things like, oh, this looks like this place in my, you know, I'm mapping it, your town to my town I grew up in. And when you're saying, oh, it was a barn, like, I did, I wasn't born in a barn. I wasn't born in a barn, but I lived in one for a while where I'm like, yeah, they used to take, like, barn houses and make small apartments out of them, like, little segmented rooms, and then remember to put insulation in afterwards. And then, and then as you. As you add on, you probably say like, oh, yeah, this needs to be insulated more. But one of the spooky things is, for me, I saw myself in your house, and I was trying to figure out everything that was going bump in my place right now. Like, is that going to be, like, transferring over? So my question, very long winded question to you is, are you worried about this attachment? Will he attach to you as the new living energy, bright, sparkly thing, as a clairvoyant? Right. Do you fear of that attachment, of the entity?
[00:13:13] Speaker B: I don't fear attachment. I think his attachment is to the property.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: It's more to the property then, okay.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: I think his love was for the land, this land, and he put his whole heart into the land, into his house. And I think that's the attachment, is the house, and I'm the stranger in his house. That's how I look at it. But I think he does feed off of our energy, because the more talk about him, the stronger he sends to get.
[00:13:40] Speaker A: Well, I can't wait to do too much press. I'm so sorry. I'm like, now I feel bad. Like, oh, no, if you're doing something now and a disturbance, we won't describe it, but as the disturbance happens, do you acknowledge it? Like you would like a little kid trying to get attention, like, okay, I see you, and then, you know, move on.
[00:14:03] Speaker B: Yeah. I try and ignore it now because I don't want to give it the attention. Okay, I'll notice it. And I just pretend like I didn't notice it. I just don't want to give it any attention. It's like I'm talking to you right now, and while you were talking, I could feel something over here, and I turned to look, and then now I'm just gonna ignore it because there's something there, and I don't. I don't want to deal with it. I don't. I probably him, so trust me, I want to go there. I'm like, just stop. Like, I'm not giving him any attention. But my ears were ringing on this side, and I could just feel, like, a pressure over here. And I just thought, yeah, this new technology, this new Internet stuff, that I think it has a lot, that they can really communicate through a lot through this, and I think they're fascinated by it, but I think they know more stuff about it than we do.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: So it's. It's a great angle because I think you're right. I think you are right. The more gadgets we get that can do voice over, the Internet protocols or electronical things that can talk, it's better for them to try to communicate with. And because energy is energy, it's a little more inherently, like, knowledgeable for them. Right? Yeah, I think you can probably set some stuff up.
[00:15:26] Speaker B: I keep looking in the background behind me because I'm like, okay, is he actually going to make it appearance while I'm talking to you or what's going on? Because I can let. It's really funny.
[00:15:37] Speaker A: Full disclosure. Me too.
I'm like, we got an orb on camera once.
[00:15:45] Speaker B: That's crazy.
[00:15:45] Speaker A: Doing it, doing interviews. Like, I thought I hallucinated it. And the guest is like, no, I saw that, too. I'm like, okay, good.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm just waiting for something to come up because it's just, it's pretty strong behind me. I'm like, okay. I'm trying not to turn around and look, I'm laughing. I'm like, okay, I just know much about this technology, but like you said, I think they find it very easy for them to communicate through this new technology.
[00:16:11] Speaker A: So, yeah, I think it's akin to an adult trying to use a piece of advanced electronic technology. We try to understand how to use it. A child trying to use a piece of advanced technology is going to use it however they want.
Yeah, like the ghost. Be like, I have never seen this before in my life. It must be. What does, what does this do? You know, one of those things.
[00:16:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: Exploratories.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: Yeah. It's like, welcome to Star Trek. Right? It's like the stuff that you ever thought that you'd ever see. You can imagine what it must appear to. To these guys, right? It's like, what is that? She has a communicator.
[00:16:49] Speaker A: I. Exactly. I bought a phone, a. $1,000 for a communicator. It looks like a Star Trek communicator.
That's like, it's finally happened. I could finally do this. Absolutely.
[00:17:00] Speaker B: For the Star Trek a lot, because I was raised in the sixties and seventies, so Star Trek was the big thing. So if I want to protect myself, it's, hey, engage shields.
[00:17:10] Speaker A: I'm guilty of that, too.
[00:17:11] Speaker B: You know, if I. You know, I'm like, if I want to meditate and go into, like, an alpha state, I'm like, okay, beam me down, Scotty. I'm like, let's go. Like, let's. You know, I use that slang a lot. I guess I shouldn't, but I think it works.
[00:17:27] Speaker A: I think we can visualize things and make a manifest with our own energy because we have that mapping. Like, he has a mapping of his house, what his house should be.
[00:17:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:38] Speaker A: You have the mapping of our cultural background with Star Trek. Me too. And it gives us a focal point to really focus the energy in a way that we can manifest the way we want.
[00:17:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Like, it's just, it's a, you know, it's. You can visualize it. You just. You know what it. Like everybody. If you say, beam me up, Scotty, everybody knows what that is. Right? So it's kind of funny that you just kind of tend to that stuff, but. Yeah, no, I'm laughing. He seems to have calmed down a little bit now, so I'm hoping that he's not. Whenever I talk about him, he seems to get a little bit stronger.
[00:18:13] Speaker A: So it seems like if you talk about him, it's. Is it getting his attention or is it part of the manifestation of your energy, like flashing and pulling? You know what I mean?
[00:18:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know.
I'm not experienced enough to know. You know, I always joke that I'm a ghost magnet, but I try not to be. I really do not want to see all this stuff or feel all the stuff. I don't want people to think I'm crazy all the time, so I'm. I try not to, but it's. There's something there. I don't know if it's because I'm more open to it or eating off my energy, I'm not sure. I just try to ignore it, and hopefully it goes away, but this guy ain't going anywhere.
[00:18:57] Speaker A: I brings me to another. It's kind of like a question and slash, you know, slash statement. Because the t and e channel, by the way, if you want to watch my haunted hometown, it's at September 6, 10:00 p.m. eastern Pacific. When I watch a teeny channel, what makes them special is they take people at face value. They give people room to talk to about their narrative, about their live experience, and they believe, like, they're not trying to make, ah, you know, the crazy person. As you're saying.
What was your experience with, like, this? From saying, I'm going to be on the show to taping to the aftermath. Like, is it helping you share your story? Does it help you to share your story that way?
[00:19:46] Speaker B: It was awesome that I got to share it that way. Um, I really like the way the show was done. I like that they actually come and try and reenact like that it was actually me doing it. But it's scary to say that you're gonna do a show like that because you're exposed now to a lot of people and you're thinking, okay, there's a lot of non believers, but if you are a teeny watcher, then you have to be into the paranormal. That's, you know, that's what it's all. That's the whole channel go to. That's the channel, right?
[00:20:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: So if I'm on tv, then, yeah, it's. I'm okay with it because it's, you know, it's the paranormal channel. It's like you said, people don't have to be convinced. You know, there's. They understand they've already had experience or they can relate to us, you know, a little bit easier. But you don't have to sell yourself. You just have to be yourself, and then people will get it right.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: Absolutely. I think that's a great distinguishing. You don't have to sell yourself. You just have to be yourself.
[00:20:47] Speaker B: Yeah, like, that's, you know, there's. I'm not trying to hide nothing. I'm as real as you're going to get. So I'm just like, this is what happened to me, and this is. I can't say it's, you know, it's the truth, but it's up to other people if they want to believe it or not. But I know if they're on t and e, they already know it's true.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: So yeah. And that's one of the great things about t and e when they do the interviews, I do, like, the is this person lying? Bit. And a lot of times on different shows, like, not, obviously not on tv channels, because they do great homework themselves. They're like, oh, this person is just, like, just trying to sell the new product coming out. They're not really bleeding what they're saying. Every teeny interview I've seen, especially on my haunted hometown. I love the episode, by the way, on September 6 at 10:00 p.m. eastern Pacific, 100% just true, true, true, true, true. And that's what comes through real people. You're not being coached. You're not being. Okay, try it again. This way. It's none of that. It's real people telling their stories the way they need to tell it. And that's what really makes it endearing. It makes it an experience that you want these. You root for the people. Like, I'm like, oh, I hope they'll. I'm afraid for you. I root for you.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: You know, you'll see on the episode that I'm not the only person on the episode, that there's other people in strathroy. But Carl's story, he's not clairvoyant. He's not. He's never seen anything like this in his life. And the experiences that he has and the documentation that he has will just blow you away. And he is. You're not going to get a nicer guy than Carla. He is just an amazing person. And he is, like, when he's talking to you, you know, he's just right from the heart. And his story, like, what's his experience that happened to him is just phenomenal. Like, it's just crazy.
[00:22:43] Speaker A: And all these stories made me want to move to your town.
Like, everyone's like, get it? Oh, my gosh. I'm like, not so much for the serial killer part. Like, I need to do more research on that one. But all the stories that people are telling and the people who are telling them, like, these are people you want as neighbors. This is. This is what a hometown should be.
[00:23:06] Speaker B: There's some really good people in this town. It's a small town, and people are coming out more with, you know, they're not scared to tell people, you know, hey, yeah, I seen a ghost. They're becoming more acceptable to talk about the paranormal, and it's a good thing because of shows like this. This is. Or acceptable, right?
[00:23:24] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's why I'm forever grateful for teeny Channel. And again, I can't wait to be able to talk about your show and spoil the crap out of it once. It once. It airs on September 6 at 10:00 p.m. eastern Pacific, only on t e.
And I think it brings a lot of people together. Like, the horror community loves it. The people who are nothing like hardcore horror fans, they like it because it's their tiptoe win. And it's real.
[00:23:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:56] Speaker A: People can see it and then grasp it and the people telling the stories. So, barb, I want to thank you very much for your time. It's been fantastic talking to you.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: Thank you so much for having me on.
[00:24:08] Speaker A: And I can't wait. I'm going to watch it again. I'm going to watch it again. And I can watch it on t and e's free preview from September 2 to the 3 November and 1 September 6. Happens at 10:00 p.m. eastern Pacific. My haunted hometown. Every week, new episode until we get to the oat show. All right, that's it for me. Barb, thanks a lot for again, I love it. I can't wait to watch it again.
Have a good day. Bye, everyone.
[00:24:37] Speaker B: Bye.
