Lauren Jane Barnett: Horror Writing, London Landmarks, and 'Darner' Movie

October 21, 2024 00:28:37
Lauren Jane Barnett: Horror Writing, London Landmarks, and 'Darner' Movie
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Lauren Jane Barnett: Horror Writing, London Landmarks, and 'Darner' Movie

Oct 21 2024 | 00:28:37

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Jim Phoenix

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Join host Jim Phoenix as he delves into the chilling world of horror with Lauren Jane Barnett, author of “Death Lines: Walking London Through Horror Cinema”. Discover the eerie connections between London’s landmarks and classic horror films, explore Barnett’s “London Horror Movie Book Club” podcast, and get exclusive insights into her upcoming movie “Darner”, featuring Friday the 13th star Adrienne King. From “The Witches of Sand” to Barnett’s first horror convention appearance, this episode is a must-listen for horror aficionados and London history enthusiasts alike. Tune in for a spine-tingling journey through the streets of London and the silver screen!Catch […]
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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey everyone, Jim Phoenix here. And today's what's cracking. We have the whirlwind of Lauren Jane Barnett. That's right. If you ever read anything about London horror, you know Lauren Jane's work. We've got the book, we've got the movie with Adrian King coming out, Darner and Lorne Horror movie club. Get your tea and carpets cause this is gonna be fun. Hit it. Hey everyone, Jim Phoenix here. And today we've got none other than the runner, Lauren Barnett. No wait, what? Oh, I'm sorry. The horror enthusiast. Extraordinary, Lauren Jane Barnett. That's right. Sorry, I thought we're doing a running show today but I love that. Pleased to meet you. I'm so glad you can come from London. [00:00:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Thank you for having me and thank you for doing it. At a reasonable hour. This could have been at midnight my time. [00:00:59] Speaker A: Oh, I can change this. Oh, like next time will be less accommodating to people. It's wonderful. I've looked through your writing and your artistic history and I'm like, oh, this is my jam. Like deaf lines walking London through horror cinema. I love. Absolutely. This is, this is me. This is 100%. So I'm just going to talk about your process going from writing to something like a movie that may or may not talking to you today about. So why horror? Of all the things, why horror for you? [00:01:35] Speaker B: I've always loved horror. I mean from when I was little, my dad would watch Hitchcock with me when I was a kid. I like turn to classic movies. Yeah, I mean the birds was probably, I think my first one. So it was stove straighted, but yeah, I always loved it. And I was doing my, I was like studying and I was finding myself really bored. I was doing all these walks around London because I'm american and I wanted to like get to know the city more. And nobody did any walks about horror films here. But there are so many great horror films here. I couldn't believe it. It was nuts. This was back in like 2014, I think there's a few now, not just me. I know there's been some price walks or a thing as well, but yeah, so I couldn't believe it. So a friend of mine said, we'll just do them. And so I did. And then I met a publisher who said, you know, there's a book in that. And he was right. I'm all like prepared. I have a prompt. Sorry for being, but I, yeah, walks. [00:02:32] Speaker A: That's a book as a weapon too. [00:02:34] Speaker B: It is, it's great. Especially like London here's. [00:02:38] Speaker A: Another horror film right now doing. And this is amazing. I love the concept of it because I am a movie fan and a lot of people who can't get to London, I'm looking at reviews like, I'm not even in London. I love reading this stuff and it makes them want to go. Like, one day I'll go and then follow along the book. [00:02:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I really lucky, actually, somebody sent me an email saying, like, thanks to Google Maps, they were able to do one of my London walks. Locations in the Google maps. [00:03:06] Speaker A: It's so cool. [00:03:07] Speaker B: Isn't that amazing? [00:03:08] Speaker A: Oh, my God. You're the new James Joyce for Dublin. We're doing Bloomsday walk. Let's do the London walk. Oh, my God. That's a tour package. Okay, so you did this. I have to ask because it is not a small book. How long did it take you to write that? Just. [00:03:24] Speaker B: Oh. So when people ask me this, I'm always really intimidated to answer because technically, if you start from, like, the moment a publisher said, hey, write this. And I finished the manuscript, it was only a year, but I'd been giving the walks for three years. So it's like three years of researching the walks and doing them and changing them, and then only a year of writing it down. [00:03:44] Speaker A: Oh, my God. So did you ever think about doing something like this and then selling it as a tour thing? As in, you know, they've had the headphones on. This is my tour right now. Just like, walk around London. Here's your headset. Walk around. [00:03:58] Speaker B: Yeah, you can actually. My Chelsea walk, London, month of the dead has it recorded and you can just. You can pop your headphones in. They've got a cute little map that they do with it and everything is a lot of fun. [00:04:09] Speaker A: Well, good for you. And that has to be an amazing thing. Giving tours is one thing, but learning about the area because you were interested in the area sells it even better because you have a vested interest. Right. [00:04:21] Speaker B: I loved it. And, I mean, the coolest thing as well was you get, especially with a city like London that's changing all the time. You'll walk through, like, these really, really modern, all high glass apartments, and you'll turn this little corner and then there's this really weird looking victorian street that's like 10ft long, and you go, oh, my God. That's where they shot the werewolf at the end of american werewolf in London. Holy cow. And it's because in the middle of nowhere, there's this victorian road. Why? Nothing. [00:04:49] Speaker A: Oh, wow. That's better. I tried making one for Canva island. It did not work as well. Like, the only thing shot there was. [00:04:57] Speaker B: Why did you decide to do that? [00:05:00] Speaker A: I was there, I guess I was doing, no, it's, it's really good. And I want to get into your background because you like, well, obviously a good writer. You're a fantastic storyteller. Right? How does that translate from books into maybe film? [00:05:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, interestingly, a lot of my short stories, people said, are very cinematic. One of them is getting adapted into a horror anthology next year, actually. So weirdly, it kind of worked for me. I guess I'm very visual in my writing, which sounds strange. [00:05:36] Speaker A: No, but it's an asset. I mean, it does. Yeah. Some people are like, I don't describe anything. It's imagination. Don't know when you make it pop out of the page. It makes a cinematic experience for the mind. And I love what you do. [00:05:49] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Thank you so much. I'm really, I'm really honored. It's been, it's been a great year, actually, for me in that respect. I've had that. I've been able to write for a couple horror films I just finished. I shot in it as well. I was an actor in it as well. But we did a short for video shot, tales of terror two, called invasion at Studio 69. So nice. It's a very fifties b movie plus porn spoof. It's hilarious. [00:06:14] Speaker A: Uh, how am I not in that? [00:06:16] Speaker B: I know, right? And then I got one of my, I wrote it originally as a story and I gave it to my partner as a director. And I, we were, we were just friends at that point. I gave him the short story and he said, you should write this as a film. I was like, okay. So I did, I wrote it out, a screenplay, my very first one. And Misty Moon Productions picks it up. I'm filming it actually next month, which is crazy. It's called Darner and it's with, I couldn't believe it when he told me. She said yes. He gave the script to Adrian King, who's the last girl in Friday the 13th, part one. [00:06:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:48] Speaker B: And she loved it. And so she's believed in it. [00:06:51] Speaker A: Oh, that's amazing. [00:06:52] Speaker B: Believe it. [00:06:54] Speaker A: That's an amazing, I love when I saw Adrienne King. I'm like, Adrian King? Adrienne King. Yes, it is like, yeah, it is. Like, look at, I'm like, oh my. [00:07:01] Speaker B: God, it's so funny. Actually, we're doing this today. We've got like an initial meeting tomorrow. And I'm like, so nervous. To actually meet her. I know she likes it, which is great, but I'm still like, I can't believe just talking to Adrienne Kingdom. [00:07:18] Speaker A: Yeah. You're like trying not to talk about, you're going to talk about the movie at some point, right? [00:07:23] Speaker B: Right. I mean, I have to figure out exactly the right moment to do that because I want to look professional. It's a professional meeting stuff. But, you know, I might just be like, oh, yeah, I'm sure it was a lot like when you read the script for Friday the 13th. [00:07:37] Speaker A: You know, I have a friend Jason, and his mom doesn't like him. Oh, what was that? That one? Jason's mom. That's exciting. That really is. And it comes from someone reading your short story, believing in you and in the story and going, this is amazing for a film. And you still have to have the talent to pull that off, though. It's luck plus talent, right? I mean, it's not just like I went through the universe doing nothing. No, you, you worked at it. [00:08:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Really hard. So I was, I mean, I've been, I've been writing for ages before I was able to do it professionally. I think I started in like, 2007, and I'd always write a short stories or something. And, you know, you get a lot of rejections, but, like, some are nice enough to tell you what to fix and what to work on. Some of them just never respond to you ever again. [00:08:25] Speaker A: That's a rejection. Right. [00:08:27] Speaker B: To all the editors out there. Give you some feedback. Thank you. It makes us better writer. [00:08:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it's weird. It's, it's the, like, I want to be a writer. Like, were you popular in school? Yes. No. You're going to get a lot of welcome to rejections. Welcome to Ghosting. I think the editors invented ghosting for that. [00:08:44] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:08:46] Speaker A: Not even a form letter. [00:08:48] Speaker B: It's really funny because everyone's always like, oh, it must be so full of rejection. And I was like, I wish they were personal enough to reject you. That would have felt nicer to me. [00:08:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I wish it was like, we hate your story, you know, so we could fix on it. Nothing. Okay, thanks. What was the best rejection you got? Curious. [00:09:08] Speaker B: Oh, I think actually, weirdly, it was probably for my very first story that got published, which was toujours, which was a while ago, 2010. I'd written it as a draft much earlier, and I had submitted it around a few places. No replies, no replies. Somebody wrote back to me and said, the idea is so creepy, but you don't show us that. It's creepy. And I was like, that's a weird, huh, huh? And so I wrote back and I was like, you absolutely have no obligation to tell me, but could you explain that a little bit more? She advised me, she's like, well, you. You don't make the atmosphere creepy. So what's happening? The plot, I know intellectually, is really upsetting, right? But I don't feel it. And that totally changed the way I went about writing because I was so plot driven. I was so like, oh, action movie. You need to have, like, interesting stuff happening all the time. And it really changed writing. I was like, oh, yeah. It's about these people have to sit with it, so they have to feel everything from the first moment of what you want. And it's made me such a great writer. Well, like, not great writers. Maybe a lot better, though. [00:10:17] Speaker A: You know what I've learned? I've read it. Not that particular one, but I've read your stuff. I think great writer is good. It's a good, yeah, yeah. I mean, come on, you're gonna work with Adrian King. [00:10:28] Speaker B: I. That is, I can't. [00:10:29] Speaker A: If you ever wonder, am I a good writer, just remember Adrian King. Yeah, exactly. For me, it was Ohura. That's exactly it. It was like, you just need that one person, really, that you looked up as a kid and going, oh my God, they like me. They really, they truly like me. And that's great feedback. And I think you did. A lot of writers don't do. They'll get the rejection email and go, ah, whatever, you know, loser. You don't like my stuff, fool on you. But you wrote back, and probably, I'm guessing politely, because they wrote back to you afterwards. [00:11:06] Speaker B: Yes. I did not want to piss them off. It was great. They'd written me back. [00:11:10] Speaker A: It's like, it's gonna be like, oh, here we go. And that goes a long way. We have anthologies we used to write. We work with authors by anthologies. When we have to reject something, always feel like, really bad, like, oh, I hate rejecting because I hate being the person saying, sorry, you're not ready yet. But the yet part is it, you're not ready yet. Work on your craft more, come back later on, fix this, and then be fine. So you took that rejection and it made you a stronger writer that landed more and more like deals and major things coming like Darners coming out. What is the feeling when you're looking back on your career? Is it just a whirlwind or is it kind of like, oh, I knew this was going to happen. [00:11:53] Speaker B: No total world, I mean, especially the films, have been a total surprise. I think when, when deathlines came out, I was like, okay, I'm a proper, I'm a proper writer now. I can, like, focus on this. And I was at this dark fest, which is this amazing horror festival here in London. And Pauline Piet, who's in, she's a hammer sort of actress here, and she was in Dracula ad 1972, which is one of the films in my book. And so I was like, can you sign my book? You're in it. And she, she said to me, oh my gosh, you know, you have to meet Tony Martin, who's actually now my partner, but he's a film director and he's the first one to try and help me get my writing into sort of screenplay shape. And so that was only two years ago in November. So the last two years I've written five different things. Three are about to be filmed, two already have been. And it's, that's been total surprise, total chaos. And so much fun as well because it started basically with me being like, oh, I'd like to, like, be an extra in your movie. And I did like a little scene and then I ended up being in loads of other films. And other people were like, oh, you're a writer? I'm a director. What do you write? And then that's Alex, who I did video shop with. I'm working with somebody named Tom Lee Rutter. He did pocket film superstitions. I'm doing cool him called trial, the undying. And it's just like all within the past two years. [00:13:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just putting yourself out there. I think they will come to you. You have to come to them and just be personable. [00:13:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's the other thing is it's really, I don't know if you've found this as well, but I think people who love horror are always willing to sort of talk to you about who are always excited to meet someone else who loves it. And it's that really, like, amazing environment that you can, you can, you know, get to know people really well and you can have a great time and, but then you can also be like, oh, you know, hey, you love horror. Read this, tell me what you think, and they'll give you really great honest feedback. [00:13:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:48] Speaker B: Really know their stuff that it actually. [00:13:51] Speaker A: Has been my experience. And this horror is a really weird genre for me because it is like a family. As soon as you start talking like, oh my God, you can overhear someone talking about it and they'll welcome you into their conversation about it because they love it so much. Like, oh, I didn't even know you before like five minutes ago, but let's go. It's welcoming and everyone wants to help you. Yeah, everyone really the ones to step behind you, they all want to help because it's more horror, the better. [00:14:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:18] Speaker A: More art, the better in the world. Absolutely. And then not only are you doing the movies and the books, as if that wasn't enough, but I loved your tagline as the sound of vision. The London Horror movie club. [00:14:31] Speaker B: Yes. [00:14:33] Speaker A: What is the London Horror movie Club? [00:14:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. So I am my big brother who introduced me to horror movies. Chris is in North Carolina and he and I do the podcast, which is London Horror movie club. It started out with us reviewing horror movies that were set in London because I obviously know a lot about them. And then the more I got to meet people in the indie british horror industry, the more we're like, hey, come talk about what you do. Because everybody likes to listen to like the big guys, but they have so much support and so much more going on. They don't have to be, you don't have the director who's like holding a lamp to try and make it be a lighting rig while having built the costume you're wearing. And their stories are insane and incredible. They go to crazy lengths while holding down full time jobs to make these movies they love. [00:15:21] Speaker A: That is the indie part. And I love, I love podcasting because like, thank you, Kevin Smith, but it's the last place that you can have total freedom. Do you want, your format's your format. People will come. [00:15:36] Speaker B: Yeah, because I don't know for you, but like growing up, we, I mean, horror fans, I assume you were unniche fans. It took ages to find somebody else, if you found them at all. Got you. And who liked the stuff you liked. Now we can, my brother and I can talk nonsense with another horror director and be like, oh yeah, it's amazing. And then someone on, you know, in China even will find us and go, oh my God, I loved that movie. [00:16:03] Speaker A: That's the amazing part about the Internet. When used for good, it can really, I know, it can really make branches out to people. When you're looking at statistics, like people are from what country are watching me right now? That's insane. That's insane. But yes, growing up in a small town, if you lucky, have like friends at all. But to have that horror friend, they can like just go through the cheesiest from the bees all the way up into the, the blumhouses. We'll say it's like, yeah, this is it. This is our jam. And finding it on the Internet, you have the family. You have. If you ever watched the last drive in joke up Joe Bob Briggs, you had the mutant fam. And they're very supportive. You have this family and this family and this one and all ones are nice. We had, like, Isaac Thorn on before, and Isaac's got a bazillion followers. [00:16:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:53] Speaker A: And he's like, yeah, no, I just push everyone because I believe in horror. I'm like, so nice. I love it. [00:16:59] Speaker B: God, he's a great writer as well. He's really engaging. That's so cool. [00:17:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. And I, with my ego, he submitted something a long time ago to an anthology. We did. I'm like, oh, my God, your writings. Great. You go far, kid. When what he's already established. I was like, I discovered you when you're already discovered. But, yeah, it was like the little things. It's just little things that add up. Now, has anyone come to you as saying, I need a mentor, I need a horror mentor? [00:17:33] Speaker B: No. No, they haven't. And I think that's probably a good thing because I'm still getting my feet grounded. [00:17:42] Speaker A: If this is getting your feet grounded, I hate to see when you're full stream. [00:17:46] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:17:47] Speaker A: Honestly, it's. I think, you know, cut me if I'm wrong, but I think that if you go to conventions. Are you going to conventions for your own stuff? [00:17:57] Speaker B: Yeah, whole horror convention. Very kindly invited. My very first one is at the end of this month, and I'm going and I've even got, like, actually, it's really funny. You'd appreciate this. I had, they asked me to, like, do pictures for people to see movies. And I was like, who is gonna want a Lauren Sapokowski photo? [00:18:13] Speaker A: Tons. You will, okay. Tons of people. You have no idea. No idea. As long as you're there and then your stuff looks cool, they don't care. They will be your nuts. [00:18:24] Speaker B: Basketball. [00:18:25] Speaker A: Yeah. And that's the perfect picture for it. I'm like, hell, I want one of those now. [00:18:29] Speaker B: I love that one. The vampire from, it's from when I said wishes the sands best. It was like, 32nd scene. And I have so many photos of. [00:18:36] Speaker A: It, which is in the sand. And that's, that's the, uh, Tony Martin one. Yes. [00:18:41] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's a, it's a feature. It's coming. It's gonna be out end of next year, but it's like, it's got, that's. I got to act with Linnea Quigley in that. I mean, he's got so many incredible people. I got talked with Simon Bamford from Hellraiser. He was amazing. I love him to pieces. [00:18:59] Speaker A: That, oh, my God, that is Simon. I'm like, I was looking at them like, yeah. [00:19:02] Speaker B: And he's. I mean, everyone's in this. Brink Stevens is in it. Lindsey Dohynte, isn't it? Lynn Quigley. Deborah. I mean, it's ridiculous how many people Ian McCulloch I got to meet because he was in it. It's like all of these childhood heroes. You're just like, oh, my God. You're like cannibal holocaust. [00:19:17] Speaker A: Who are you? I can't believe. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. That's amazing feeling. And all because. Not all because, but dang. Location, location, location. Right? [00:19:29] Speaker B: Yeah. These walks that I did and then this book. And then it's all. It's basically the foundation of my whole career. It's crazy. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Following your passion. Yeah, following your passion. You can't go wrong. Absolutely. [00:19:41] Speaker B: However, great example of like, it's not. It's. It's doing something you love versus what you thought you should do. I was doing a degree in something else, trying to learn how to teach and, and I was bored and wanted a horror walk and so I made them. And then all of a sudden, that's somehow amazingly, magically become my life. And I'm so lucky. [00:19:59] Speaker A: That isn't. But you're still teaching in a way, because you're showing you're. It's a service. It's actually an educational experience. Deaf lines walking London through horror cinema is an educational book. [00:20:10] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. [00:20:11] Speaker A: A certain point of view for horror lovers especially. [00:20:14] Speaker B: Thanks. I actually, one of the things I loved about this was it's not just so when you, when you give the walks, you like, you kind of read the room and you see whether people are more talking about the movie or they know this movie really well and they want you to move on or whatever, but with the, the book, I got to talk a little bit more about, like why, why did directors want this location? Was there something cool to it? Was there something more to it? And that, that was just. I love that. That's my favorite bit. [00:20:39] Speaker A: The going into it is very well done. In fact, I'll do four for the first four people. Four. First four people who dm me, email me, call me, whatever. We will give you a copy of deaf lines. Walking London through horror cinema by none other than Lauren Jane Barnett. [00:20:58] Speaker B: Oh my God. That's amazing. [00:21:00] Speaker A: Dear house gratis. There we go. First four people. Now what's next? Besides, I know we're doing Darner with Adrian King. You're probably just all in. Darn. Could you imagine going to a convention next year with Darner out? I know you and Adrienne King sitting on the booth. [00:21:19] Speaker B: It's gonna be insane. And then as well, that'll be when I. So there's a. We're doing a horror anthology as well with Misty Moon. And then. So I've got another thing with them over here. Bill Fellowes is quite famous. Did you ever watch Ted Lasso? [00:21:35] Speaker A: Yes. [00:21:36] Speaker B: So, yeah, everyone on the planet pretty much in this sort of season. You see him mostly towards the end, but you also see him in the first season where he's the, he's the previous coach, the one who was wearing the waist shorts. That's Bill fellows. I'm doing something with him as well, which is very exciting. That's in the anthology. And so I've been writing for this horror anthology and I'm. Yeah, I can't. That's filming next year. And also I'll be able to go with, like, Adrienne Kang and. Yeah, I can't believe. Ridiculous. [00:22:05] Speaker A: You're on a rocket ship. [00:22:06] Speaker B: I'm very lucky. It's what I am. [00:22:09] Speaker A: Enjoy the ride. Enjoy the ride, man. [00:22:11] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:22:12] Speaker A: And one day we'll be watching you on Joe Bob Briggs season and be introducing your movie. [00:22:19] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:22:19] Speaker A: That'd be the world. [00:22:21] Speaker B: That would be so cool. [00:22:23] Speaker A: My God. Well, so we. We covered up. We've got your books. We've got London horror movie club. We've got Darner with Adrienne King. I can't believe that. I'm jealous. I'm extreme. You have no idea. I don't get jealous. I'm jealous. [00:22:37] Speaker B: It's so. It's so crazy cool. I can't even believe it. It's ridiculous as well because it was like, the producer, Stuart Morris, he said, I'll send it to her. But, like, don't, you know, don't. Don't get hopes up. Your young, young writer or whatever. And he's like, she'll be very honest. And I was like, okay, totally fine. Totally fine. And he's like, I said, I got this little text message and I was like, I sent it to Adrian. She absolutely loves it and can't wait to meet you. And I was like, oh, my God, I couldn't believe it. [00:23:07] Speaker A: I was like, oh my God. So screaming up and down. [00:23:10] Speaker B: Exactly. I was just so excited. [00:23:12] Speaker A: Oh my God. That's an amazing time. And for those who want to see you at the convention, where is that? [00:23:21] Speaker B: So this is hall horror fest. It's in Hull and it's from 26 October. I think there are still tickets. And it's really, really great festival as well because they've got like loads of people from all different aspects of horror. So lots of writers like me, there's people from things like winning the boo blood poo Blood and honey. And they've also got quite a lot of people who do like, I don't know if you know that, like the horror cross stitch and like horror baking and like, it's just horror palooza all over your face. [00:23:47] Speaker A: I love horror Palooza. Horror pullovers over your face. I think that's a tagline for it. That's a new, that's a shirt for that. The hall and hall. Really? [00:23:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's one of those things where people know, especially in England, you obviously know the London ones and everybody knows you love Horde Manchester, but they've gotten kind of so crazy big that people miss the smaller, like, oh, you can actually spend time with each person and hang out with them. And hall does that. Like, it's, it's only a couple of thousand people. So you can be with that person, you can talk to them. You can actually like have a nice time with the person that you're meeting instead of just like, hi, thank you. Next. [00:24:26] Speaker A: That's it. I, that's why I do love, we're going out to Winnipeg soon, and it's more of a smaller con. And it allows you to have FaceTime, allows you the half second besides, like the, the production line to production line. The production line to production line. And that's amazing. I'm still holding out for Canva Island Con. Me and Andy Yao from White Light, we're gonna go there. We're gonna have just us, him and I. [00:24:52] Speaker B: That'd be cool. [00:24:54] Speaker A: We could do that later on. So when you're going to the convention, I have to ask, are you also gonna bring your book? [00:25:01] Speaker B: Yeah, my main thing is I'm bringing my book, definitely. And I'm also gonna be bringing the book for witches. I play like six characters in it, so they'll be like all sorts of, yeah. And I'm hopefully gonna also be able to bring a Darner poster so people can have a little sneak of that. [00:25:20] Speaker A: I just, a little sneak is just put down Friday the 13th stuff on your, on your desk. I think you'd be like, really? Like, that's awesome. Now I have, I asked this a lot of all my guests. If you can give advice to the younger version of you, like the little kid version of you, what would that advice be? [00:25:41] Speaker B: Oh, wow, that's an amazing question. I think the big thing would be that it's okay to mess up. I think I was really hard on myself and working on my work really as well. And I think it was being really willing to ask the question of what do I need to do for my writing? So that was really important. Instead of just going, I suck and I'm terrible, which I think meant I did it a lot later because I got to basically, I think what happened is I got into my thirties and was like, ah, well, fine, if people think I'm an idiot, but if I felt that earlier, maybe I'd be where I'm at. [00:26:22] Speaker A: That's an amazing advice because I think as kids we are very hard on ourselves. [00:26:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:26:28] Speaker A: And just being able to loosen up and sometimes it takes an age and wisdom to see this. They go, oh crap, hold on. I could just be myself. [00:26:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:36] Speaker A: And good things will happen. Imagine that. Doing something I want to be. You know, that's, that's very touching. And if people want to be more touching with that, where do we find you on Internet? Interwebs? Socials. [00:26:50] Speaker B: Okay. So Lauren Jane Barnett is the sort of at for my TikTok and for Instagram. Lauren Jane Barnett is also my website. So I'm very sort of, of brand accurate. But you can also look up the London Horror movie club. We're on YouTube, we're on Facebook. And you can see my amazing brother who taught me to love horror movies and scared the crap out of me when I was little. He's the best thing in the whole world. And you can also find me on IMDb, which is mental. Lauren Jane Barnett. I know. [00:27:20] Speaker A: Isn't that the best? [00:27:21] Speaker B: That's so weird. So weird. [00:27:24] Speaker A: I love it. I love it. And I'm subscribed. So if you haven't subscribed to London horror movie club, do it now. Click the bell. I finally get that. It's amazing. Thank you so much. I can't believe how quick things are going for you in a great way. And I'm going to follow your career. I want to hear all about how the signings went home because that's going to be amazing. And of course, Darner with Adrienne King. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep us in mind. I can travel to London for an opening. [00:27:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll totally. I will do that. And I'll also. I'll make sure you get an early screener copy of the witches, the sands. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Oh, thank you. That'd be amazing. Honestly, that. You just made my day. Very cool. Very cool. Thank you again. Remember, you're Lauren. Jane Barnett. The only thing you're running from is zombies. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm still learning. Barnett, the runner. Eat that. [00:28:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:23] Speaker B: Thank you so much. [00:28:25] Speaker A: That's it for us. Thank you very much for having us. Bye, everyone. [00:28:28] Speaker B: Bye.

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